The following applies to ALL MEMBERS not just the fire by trial folks!

I'm on the prowl again, whacking folks for "THANKS" posts. You win 10 points each time! Get 20 or 30 points and you get a free escort out the door!

While everyone appreciates a pat on the back, all the readers of this forum get tired of reading post after post saying "THANKS".

SO....

If you're thankful, explain why (ex: this tool allows me to do x with y on z while Q!) or add some relevant comment (ex: Be careful using this tool on networks with Cisco routers!).

If you fall into the habit of doing this as a trial member, you will fall right out the door. If you do this as a member, you will get demoted. If you do it as a mod, you will be considered really cool (just kidding).

While whining about this may sound a bit lame (and I admit it does), who's got extra time to read "Thanks, I'll give it a whirl" 20 times a session? It's irritating. It wastes space. It pisses mods off. I'm tired of whacking people!

We have a GREAT board here. We WANT you to be a part of it. But we need to IMPROVE.

P.S. Registration is closed, so I'd be R E A L careful if I were you. We may not open up again until 2024!

** THANKS **

thanks for the info

nice to hear that registration is closed again - far too many wannabe-hackers have already swapped into this forum... and you're SO right the thanks replies are really annoying.

thanks for pointing this out! (just kiddin' )

greetz

Thanks!

Btw, ^ That was a joke ^. Feel free to laugh.
beardednose says:

I think Trial Members and maybe Members in general have this notion that this forum is like others where post count actually matters. I think I got offered a mod position after only 60-some posts. Of course, I think my average post length was around two hundred words.

It's not the quantity, it's the quality. And posts like mine above do nothing other than give a bump to a post. While I'm sure the author appreciates it, it doesn't add anything new to the discussion, and certainly doesn't give the author feedback on what he had to contribute.

If anything, say, "thanks for the prog, but why does X not work?"

I'd rather see conversation than "Grats" kind of posts.

well, GSO seems a good breeding ground for information. i admit that i became a member not by how elite my posts were but i do understand the rules so i just follwed, posted something substancial only if i happen to know something about the topic.

jeeez, im just a newbie trying hard web designer, i only know HTML (WebDwarf is nice program for this), SWiSH (for me better than flash, try the free versions but cracks are around for the full versions (SWiSHMAX)) and design related stuff..but additional knowledge would greatly help alot.

since i dont know much, im contented with my being a member status but maybe someday il be promoted, im learning ,maybe a lil bit slow but im stil learnin.

all i can say for trial members (although i know some of you are more knowledgable than me in terms of computers and stuff, but hey, i was here first ) :

number of post doesnt count. at least show some respect to fellow trial members (dont flame at them (i have this idea that people tend to change their personality online compared to their personality in the real world, i cant support this with evidence yet but hey, maybe im right a good example would be sounding elite in the net but in real life a geek ) and respect to other members alike.

well i hope you guys listen to someone like me. it pays being a member in here.

They may one day become hackers, compared to others forums this forum is quite good, i mean the you have trial members and such, with other boards you can just sign up so some of them are plagued with script kiddies.
Im not sure if like blocking new registrations is the thing to do, rather you might like want to get some mod on the forum, where the new registrant tells you why he thinks he should be allowed on the forum, its possible some skilled and knowledgable individual might want to register on government security forums.

ive been on this forum for a while
just reading the members posts helps a lot
i learn many things here
specially on irc: irc.governmentsecurity.org #gso-chat
many good links/and help are provided
hope to become a full member one day
in the mean time ill just habg around and see what i can do

That too can happen

If I remember well, a potential new member only has to speak to a mod on IRC to "apply"

His application will be reviewed, and if he seems good enough for them, he'll get access and be a trial member....and will have to work his way up....so in fact its just a little more difficult to get in...

It is the right thing to do as it 1) reminds trial and current members that we take membership and it's privileges rather seriously and 2) it gives the mods a rest as we get tired of giving out warning points 3 times a day and 3) it makes our board more exclusive and desirable.

As for possibly missing some "skilled and knowledgable" person by have the forum closed, I think not. We have enough upcoming members to provide for future mods (keep up the good work, good members). Besides, given our reputation and the difficulty you must overcome to GET IN and STAY IN, we'll do okay.

Furthermore, if you're THAT GREAT and you're not already in GSO or know someone already in GSO that can get you in, then you're probably not REALLY that great (or you're way out of our league and don't need to drop by anyway )

hmm, i was more thinking about a "Do Not Open Untill X-Mas"

anywayz, you are right. Whe i look @ the posts of my autohacker (that is stillgoing well), 95% of the ppl respond with a worthless post.

anyway, i hope they are gonna face the consequences

Happy Whacking,

FLX

Thanks for new rule
k i will

BN says: not funny. You're up to 20 warning points now and 5 toes out the door."

Nice rule, I hate whacking people. They dont help the community and they can better say nothing.. Only Thanks is no respect for the poster or your helper..

Good to see some people who takes action against those whacking people

I've seen on another forum a [complaints] button so when you click on it it shows on the bottom of the post X Amonut Of Complaints maybe this could be included on the server but instead of just Complaints, add a thankyou button then it will say how many people found it helpful?

That's an idea, but I still favor the idea of following the rules and avoiding such posts.

Is this why I have this "warn" bar under my status and name?
I never received any PM or notification from any mod why this happened...

Everyone has a warn bar underneath there user name, you should get a pm telling you if your warning goes up.

good point. I'll add this to the revised list of rules we're working on.

Interesting rule.
But I think this will make the people work less for this board.

Look, at the moment people code programs and post papers. That's great, everyone shares his knowledge. I postet some self developed tools and papers, too. And I got many replies of people who thank me and gratulate for my work. That made me work even more.

Now, how would you feel if you would spent many days developing a program and just a few people would reply because they have a question or something regarding the program.

I think this rule sucks (sorry, that's my opinion) because this will not make this board getting a better community

All we ask is that, along with the THANKS, you share WHY you're thankful. Simple as that.

http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/6th...tupidpeople.jpg

hehe this is for the thx and servu poster!!!!

The Warn bar is just there. If it's at 0%, you're okay. Once you start acting up, it goes up 10-20 points a naughty. When you hit 30 points, you get a beautiful, blond escort right out the door!

By the way, I haven't seen many THANKS posts lately. That's good. Am I missing any out there?

Well This is a thanks post in a way. -=Along the same theme in any case. I would just like to express my appreciation for this security site. I was paying for two other sites here recently, but with this site so full of valuable information, and free, I'm going to save some money.

Which ones are you paying for?

Good deal. It sure is annoying to see people just reply with a 'THX ALOT ' or crap like that.. which is probably why i dont have alot of posts myself but meh, i just like to educate myself while being on here.
the 'warning bar' sounds like a decent idea. Keep up the good work

edit: just noticed the bar is already working lol nice

have you ever been a forum moderator/admin? I haven't,but i know what they feel with such boring posts always come, the database will be quickly very big, and that makes an unnecessary crap... imagine you post a tool here and you receive 20 thanks posts a day... that can be good for you, but not for te admins, since the capacities of the computers are limited... and as the uploader, it can be quite boring and hard to fish out the questions within so many "thanks" posts...

Well said. Nicely put. A person with some empathy!

Contrary to popular opinion, I don't enjoy whacking folks....

well, if someone would just say thanks, they could also PM the person, no need to fill the forums with junk instead

keep up the good work.. i'm a member of several other forums, but this is the only one of all which won't allow thanks posts, that makes the reading of a topic a lot easier ;-)

If a program is created on a subject line you are interested in, you're going to have feedback or additional comments. Here's two sample posts that are better than just "thanks":

"Thanks for releasing this tool. At my school network, they still use a lot of NT and Windows 2000 servers, so having those extra offsets in there is great for those of us doing internal auditing."

"Thanks, and yeah, like the guy above, our school has a lot of older servers so this tool works really good. Is it possible to get a module written up for Metasploit using this? I'd really appreciate it!"

It's really very simple for someone to write up just a bit more info. It might give people ideas for future tools.

Some members think that this rule only applies to those in the "trial member" group. Well, it applies to anyone, been warning a few "full members" today about this.

I'll update the original post to ensure it's clear. Thanks.

i became a member at 7 posts, all of which contained relevant information. im happy to see someone addressed this issue the "thanks" replays. i think the thing to say is if all youve got to say is "thanks" it would be better to just not reply. anyway, my 2 cents on this one are spent.

ok guys, the thanks post have to stop. ANYONE I CATCH POSTING THANX WILL GET 1 WARNING POINT AND 15 DAYS SUSPENSION FROM GSO.

Ok, so dont do it.

but the suspension sometimes becomes shorter or longer

Hey folks, this is one of the reason we close the doors now and then. The door is starting to slowly swing shut. Keep it up and it will keep swinging...

By the way the door is shut. The way we are working new registrations is this. One morning I wake up and I say "Gee I will open registration today" Then the next minute I say gee I am shutting it dow. So right now the door is shut. Thats is what makes a suspension here a little more meenigful. You never know if you will get back in.

GSO is a great forum, but it's not the only good security forum. Think that there are many other alternatives which can compete with GSO as well.

Like what? I sure haven't found any. No, I don't think we've cornered the market, but I definitely think we're way up there.

I haven't seen any other board with our quality in the public areas and no one whacks skiddies like we do.

Pray tell, b.

true that we have thousands of security boards up and running but GSO has its own style and repu.... also it has the most of the respect a security board should have..... and its a few megabytes better than other boards online

First of all, sorry for my way of explanation.
I realized that my explanation way has confused the folks, so I will explain clearer what I mean.
I said "can compete", and not "are competing". Also I mean here the following: There are many other security forums, some of them good, some of them not good. But they are able to get better. That's a matter of the member quality, and the member-admin-communication. Any potential good member who isn't able to enter GSO will seek another alternative to improve that. When these people work for these alternatives and improve them, and even become moderators/admins there, the forum quality gets increased. The member quality and member-admin-communication is built in GSO very well, I personally can't deny it. But it doesn't mean that noone else can do that. If GSO admins and moderators can do that, admins at AntiOnline or any other security forum can do that, too. That's nothing special to do with GSO moderating team, GSO moderators and admins are humans like you and me, too.
I didn't deny that GSO is a great forum. But when it was founded, it didn't become a great forum immediately. It's also mentioned in relevant threads what happened in years since the foundation. It's a matter of hard work, and GSO does it well. They are not competing, but can compete if they change their way of administration.

Point taken, that is the beauty of the Internet and the human mind in general. Any one can do anything they want, the difference is that few commit themselves do a single idea to the best of their ability.

hey guys!
thanks for info.

[edit] tibbar - banned for 365 days!

I have personally looked around at other security forums, but GSO still remains as my fav. It is nice to not have to deal with kids who are trying to "hack the skool netwerk."



You have to be kidding me... of all places, in the ""thanks" Posts Will Come Back To Haunt U" thread...

lol zess, have a enjoyable LONG break.

And you guys don't think that was an attempt at humor? If not its a pretty lame cry for attention.

--P>G>>

either way, if that's post #1, i dont want to see anymore from him!