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Which video do you want?

Loose Change - For those on slower connections, explains quite alot about the physical aspects of 9/11, is only an hour long, so if don't you 2 hours to sit and watch a documentary this if for you.


9/11 Martial Law - For those of you who who are leaning towards the fact the US Military (or some inside group) carried out 9/11.

9/11 Painful Deceptions - For those hardcore skeptics, that think 9/11 was carried out by Arabs.
Provides extremely strong evidence, also explains about our controlled media.
This one is for you beardednose, download all 3 parts and watch all 3 before dismissing any of it.
I have yet to see anyone who has watched this video to argue about what I am saying.

The authors encourage you to distribute, thank you very much for downloading and taking the time to find out the truth

Very good JOB!, it makes me happy to see theres more and more wakign up to the truth. Keep spreadin da word brotha.
Another good site is

www.whatreallyhappened.com

Yeh I know of that site, but I am trying to get people to download videos.

Because they contain a lot more information and people understand videos better, when people go to websites they take a look and think "Well that might be true" and for a website to explain things in depth and provide examples and evidence it takes a lot of work.

Please download the videos people!

Why is this even here?

I'm not even going to argue the merits of this tinfoil hat nonsense, but if you want to, go somewhere else.

I come here because it's a "Network Security Resource"

Open Topic
Talk about anything on your mind.

You can talk about conspiracy theories all you want but if you really think that 9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack, then what can I say..... you should probably visit a psihiatrist .
And be carefull they're watching you, your house tapped, and they know that you know "the truth". It's only a mather a time till they eliminate you.

The evidence is Iraq. America is playing GOD. They invaded Iraq, without the agreement of the U.N., because of the "nuclear and chemicals weapons" that don't exist, the real motive beeing the oil.

Sorry, didn't know that the open topic stuff showed up as frontpage links.

Still, this is some serious crack pot rantings.

I was there that morning, I saw the planes hit the Twin Towers, they were planes.

Was the FBI hasty? Probably, and the mistakes seem to have occured because they cross checked passenger manifests with their watch lists, and some ID theft seems to have occured.

The Pentagon? Well, my aunt was driving and HEARD something big and loud fly right over the interstate. A plane? Probably. Or did 'they' get to here to?

Besides, let's say the Pentagon attack was an internally planted bomb, then ask WHY?

When people think of 9/11, I personally see the Twin Towers being the main aspect instead of the Pentagon, which has already been repaired ages ago. So what was the point?

And for an explanation of the steel shattering, well, I'm not a materials engineer, and he probably isn't either, but I'm sure that there wasn't 1 moulded beam running up the entire length, and it probably shattered at weld and revet points.

The best part is when he tries to make Snopes off as some disinformation propaganda machine, come on, and then tries to burn aluminum with a stove. Yes, I'm sure a stove perfectly mimics the open air burning dynamics of jet fuel.
(Check yoruself, it isn't even close)

As for fire causing a building collapse, can he cite any other time anything even remotely similiar has happened? I'll wait...

The twin towers had a external support skeleton that off loaded vertical buckling into their horizontal beams. The big hole from the plane damaged some of the skin, and the fire heated the beams which softened them decreasing their strength, no need to 'melt' them. With that done, they twisted in and the floors above came crashing down. Now that had to have alot of momentum, and just broke the rest.

The Oklahoma thing is really just grasping at straws...
Yah, 3rd person, I'm sure it was Osama bin Laden himself riding with McVeigh, or maybe it was Cheney with his pitchfork and bright red tail, or even some Mossad false flag operation...

I'll agree that the media rushes stuff, and that sucks, because it decreases useful reporting for interesting reporting, and causes rush jobs with facts.
It doesn't take much for a whisper to became a rumor, to become an unconfirmed report, to become a report from insider sources, to become a CONFIRMED FACT.


REMEMBER THIS ALWAYS: WHEN YOU SEE A CONSPIRACY THEORY, TURN THEIR NUTTY LOGIC ON THEM USING OCCAM'S RAZOR:
IF YOU'RE RIGHT, THEN WHY? DON'T LET THEM GIVE YOU SHADOW GOVERNMENTS (NWO) AND WHAT NOT(ILLUMINATI) AS AN ANSWER TO THAT IMPORTANT QUESTION!!!

For all you other nuts out their, check out www.conspiracyplanet.com, you'll cream your pants over and over from all the good stuff.

Yes but they weren't commercial jets.




No one is saying that.



The temperature a kitchen stove reaches is FAR past what those fires could of reached, and that is a fact.
The maximum temperature a non-pressurised hydro-carbon fire can reach is 825 Celcius, my science teacher told me the bunsen burners we use can reach near 1500 Celcius (so I assume it's the same for a kitchen stove.)

You just can't handle the truth. "I was there, I saw it all happen"
That's what they all say, you think when Adolph burnt the Reichstag the Germans knew?
They had no idea, and history is repeating itself and you just don't realise it.

*FIRE HAS NEVER DESTROYED A STEEL BUILDING.
*It is physically impossible for Jet Fuel (fire) to melt Aluminium.



Yeh it's funny you say that, because Operation Northwoods used to be a conspiracy "Theory" before the document was declassified.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Steel melts at a temperature higher than 1500° C, while a kitchen stove can reach a temperature of 450°(at least in my country maybe in your country you need 3 times the normal temperature to cook something), so I don't see what the stove test could possibly demonstrate...

The fire is the most misunderstood part of the WTC collapse. The maximum flame temperature increase for burning hydrocarbons (jet fuel) in air is, thus, about 1,000°C-hardly sufficient to melt steel at 1,500°C. Because of physical factors the temperature in the WTC was even below 1000° C at about 750-800° C.
It is known that structural steel begins to soften around 425°C and loses about half of its strength at 650°C.This is why steel is stress relieved in this temperature range. But even a 50% loss of strength is still insufficient, by itself, to explain the WTC collapse.
With a 700 Pa floor design allowable, each floor should have been able to support approximately 1,300 t beyond its own weight. The total weight of each tower was about 500,000 t. As the joists on one or two of the most heavily burned floors gave way and the outer box columns began to bow outward, the floors above them also fell. The floor below (with its 1,300 t design capacity) could not support the roughly 45,000 t of ten floors (or more) above crashing down on these angle clips. This started the domino effect that caused the buildings to collapse within ten seconds.
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Let's say you're right and this was all a malefical inside job(and Bin Laden was their man and for some money he admitted as being responsible). Why did Bin Laden tried to collapse the towers earlier in '93(don't really remember the year correct me if I'm wrong) and did not succeed, what is the goal of the Madrid, Turkey and London bombings, considering that Spain withdrew all the troops from Irak because of this.

Looking forward to hear your answer,
JustAsFire

This is very true and i witnessed the planes that hit the towers, i was there. They were regula commercial jets. Now the one i'm not sure if the one the video highlights, the pentagon plane. Whoever actuall belives the "official" version needs to check their eyes and their brainz. Letse go back in history and look at staged terror attacks, Nero.... Hitler... Etc. And organizations who frame others, Such as MOSSAD. Who's motto is "By way of deception thou shalt do war" . Nuff said. This aint no tin foil hat bullshit, this is life, and the things in those videos and on the net far outweigh what cnn shows you.

*The FBI Made the bomb.
*They trained the driver
*They paid Emad Salem 1,000,000 to carry out the bombing!

The Washington Post and New Yorker even wrote articles about it! The FBI were outright busted!

Of course they said "It was an accident" and that they meant to stop the terrorists from carrying out the bombing, and they stuffed up there sting operation.

When the FBI had obvious involvement in '93 why would you believe them in 2001?

Do not ask me why the mainstream media doesn't pay attention to this, I suspect it is a mix of the following:

*They are controlled
*They are afraid to expose the crime of the American government.
*They get there information from Government sources.

Many people are scared of the truth and will run from it.

Those Osama tapes are obvious frauds, Osama denied he had any involvement, and so did the Taliban.



Source: BBC

@aelphaeis_mangarae
Thanks friend for keeping up the good work i will certainly download the videos when i will be at home.

Thanks

both of those videos are utterly worthless nonesense.

News to me, wonder why they have Class D fires?

Have you ever seen what happens to a helicopter that crashes and burns? Its Aluminum also. Now toss in chairs, papers, electrical, carpets, and other cumbustables and it's going to be pretty hot.


Ok that one just right over my head.


Maybe they say that cause they were there? This is in reference to those that state or lay claim that they were there when the incidents took place.


I agree to a certain extent. I would also say that others refuse to listen because they are so one sided and think that their right that nothing else can make them look at other avenues. Sometimes the hardest questions are the that way because of the simeplest answers.

Ah no that is not correct. Salem was paid to infiltrate the group, and then to testify. He is also under the witness protection program.

He was paid low money for his first infiltration, then after the bombing he was called back and given the million dollars to re-infiltrate the group.

He was actually supposed to build the bomb, but the during the initial build up stage of the bomb which was being video tapped in a warehouse he had a conflict with his FBI handler and ended up dropping out. Thats why the call was made to have Ramsi Yusef fly in to build the bomb.

That was after he (Yusef) had done a successful testing of a bomb on a Japanese Airlines, and had to bail out from the Philipines because the hotel room caught fire.

It's pretty interesting that you can post this information by pooling different online sources, but what I find confusing is that your not cross checking your information to corroborate your data. I'm sure if you cross check your information you will see flaws in some of what your sources are postings. In reference to that I would say also since you made the qoute of

And your reading what media to come up with your information?

Just because it's posted doesn't mean it's true.

Spookie

aelphaeis_mangarae,
i have to agree with you. besides all the fuzz that people are/have been making if it is true or not that it was an inside job... i (skpetical as i am) am starting to belive that it was all a premeditated act by the US.
i have seen and read tons of links, news, whatever... with photos and reports of the planecrash, the buildings and all the 9/11 disaster.
i belive taht if it was in fact a terrorist attack, why are the physical evidences showing exacly the opposite...

people lie, physics don't.

i will try to find some old links to sustain my post but won't promise anything.

I believe there are always two different opinions in addition.
There we could open several treads, and/or argue.
To me it was not important what truthly happened there,
but to which it led.

To a war.
War for oil.

and with a good propaganta one gets everything by the senate
someone helped to get a good propaganta???

there are several meanings about what happend that day !
so find ur own.

for me the video of osamaa , was an old one just need to be spreed and give a reason 2 start the war (like the ashole card [bad german translation] )

Sorry but your incorrect.
Mr Salem did build the bomb they used, and he was paid to train the retarded muslims who carried out the bombing.
Mr Salem knew the FBI were setting him up to be a patsy and he started taping interviews with John Anticev a top FBI Agent in NY, when they tried to frame Emad Salem, he played the recordings of John Anticev telling him to go through with the bombing, there were even articles written about it in the Washing Post.
However the mainstream media quickly covered it up as usual.



I read/watch all the major media quite alot, including alternative media.



You mean how they faked the videos?

This thread is meant to be about people downloading the videos, most of you just seem to be rejecting the idea all together and not downloading the videos.

Emad Salem did not build the bomb they used. Ramsi Yusef did. Emad Salem did help in the building of a bomb which took place in a warehouse being video tapped by the FBI.

Because of the possibility of losing the bomb in transit, the FBI opted to change a real part for a fake part. Problem was the fake piece was not authentic looking and caused a problem. When Salem went to his handler who was in counter intelligence not anti-terrorism, with his concerns things got hot. Long story short Salem walked because the SAC of the NY Office wanted Salem to wear a wire as well as several other issues that developed.

Because the bomb wasn't finished, they needed someone to finish it. Thats how Yusef got involved. By invitation from Omar Abdel Rachman. Now doing time in the Super Max facility in Florence,Co.

Salem refused as he was told from the very beginning he wouldn't have to. When the operation was turned over to Counter Terrorism rules changed. The SAC was looking to do things as if it was a typical criminal case, which it does not fall under from the counter intelligence agents view. But because he was the SAC he got his way.

Salem started taping his conversations with Anticev, and Napoli (NYPD AntiTerrorism)
after he started having problems after they screwed up several aspects of handling him. You have to remember Emad Salem was former military and an officer during his services. CYA is standard procedure when it comes to certain things. He did just that.