For those that have asked,
Heres how to become a member:

1) POST!!!! While I say this, I don't mean thanks, thank you for the proxy lists etc. It doesn't matter how long your posts are if they are meaningless than they will be ignored.
For the best result from posting, if you find a great FAQ, Tutorial, Post it. If you've found a new technique to do somethign Post it.
If you scan for proxy servers post them. Generally this is a you give we give type deal. You gave us a registration we gave you a very limited account, you give us the time and make good posts and we'll give you a Member Group Status.

2) Way, If you find something out of Line PM a moderator and I guarantee they will notice you there. If you find content thats against our rules on this forum (we can't get it all) aand you PM me or any other moderator, We'll have a first rate opinion of you. Fact of the matter is were conversing with you, were able to build a profile with you.

3) Go on IRC, IRC is a great way to talk to any member, and it just may give you ideas on what to post. There are tons of links on IRC that aren't posted on here.

4) Act mature. If your mature about things we'll be more willing to promote you.

Here are some basic things I think and look for when promoting people.


If anybody else has suggestions please add this. Lets just keep this thread for suggestions on becoming a member.

Along the lines of #1 mentioned above: if you know of some topic that is appropriate to security that has been commented on in some list or have any additional insight into web application security then that would be a subject that I would love to hear about.

For example: here's something a roommate wrote the other day for a security list that I manage: (just a bunch of real life friends right now)

Good points guys.

I saw a few people on IRC who basically complained about having to post to become a full members. One or two people actually asked me to promote them (even though I can't) to member status. They claimed that because trial members are so restricted, they don't post. And then they said, "give me full member status, and then I'll post". Heh, not happening mate. Just post good stuff, trigger a conversation, and the admins will obviously notice you. The admins are nice guys, so they're very reasonable.

Some people seem to be here just for themsevles; they're not interested in helping others, sharing knowledge, and contributing to the security of people's systems - they're here all for themselves. They want to be full members so they can download pre-compiled exploit programs. Come on guys, help everyone, and they'll help you. As dissolutions said, if you give us good stuff, admins will promote you. We're all in it together on this board - we're all here to help each other and get along, so let's post helpful stuff



-Shaun.

agreed, we are here to help each other.
But this unable to post thing really sux. May be you should think of a replacement for this?

i guess the onli way is to post good stuffs to earn a "Member" status. in anyway it is also for a gd cause.

one thing you kind of left out... the rules.. they're pretty strict and if you do something against the rules and then get warned, it'll probably really go against you... (i can't speak for the admins, but you get the point)

some big ones-
warez are not allowed
no specific targets can be mentioned
no "how do i hack?" kinda questions
no "can you compile this?" kinda thing
search before you ask (the answer's usually already on the board or google)
no flaming (flaming's lame, even if it's a complete noob)

let google be your friend.

I think someone else said it further up but I really, really, think you should let Trial Members start new topics in other parts of the forum. Its really hard to get noticed by you Administrator guys when all we can do is add to other's ideas.

you're lucky for this section, it might even leave if it's abused...

do everything mentioned above and you'll get the administrator's attention, you gotta prove yourself to become a member now thanks to script kiddies and noobish "blackhats".. yell at them, not the admins

btw- you have your own place to make topics in now, why are there barely any there, and none there from the people complaining about trial member status?? lol

Dont forget, this trail member forum is moderated equally as firmly as the other forums (if not firmer). Posts that go against the rules will still be dumped and members who cross the line too often will still lose their membership.

Anyways, enjoy!

i must agree.. my friend said i would be promoted if i posted 30 times.... but know im starting to doubt that because of wa ive read

Excellent, was almost impossible to post when the main forum(exploits section) is disabled from you and all the others are subject based.
Now please remove the waiting time between post to post - really stupid.

60*24=1440
1440/15=96
you can make 96 posts in one day... come on now... just be prompt and don't sleep
limit made because of spammers- yell at them

that's correct. but 96 posts is quite frankily ALOT. most people don't post more than a few a day.

i don't want to become a member at any cost, i learn a lot of things as a trial member too, but today i was very angry when i saw a member that has only 4 posts, and 2 of there posts are only "tnx for the info". maybe he's an irc active member, i don't know, but at a first look it seems not correct to me.

this not means that i'll stop to post here, this is only an observation.

have a nice day, bye

Nessuno,
Chances are the member registered way back when, When we didn't have this and thus having not gone through the trial member phase, didn't need to post anything to become a member. We used to be very open to members.

So isnt there a post limit then get promoted is it just when an amdin/mod thinks your eligible for member status you get it

yes i know, and it doesn't matter 4 me if i'm a member or not, cause i read and write in this forum also if i'm a trial member, but i've seen some guys that with 3 posts only like "tnx" "great program" "keep workin on" reached the member status, and i'm not according with this.
sorry for the poor english, but remember, i haven't written this cause i want to be a member, but cause i don't agree with those kind of "membership" that is due to... ? nothing i think! Meads, if u want i can pm u some of these users, but i'll not pm these nicks at mods, cause i think also that is not correct "spy".
have a nice day

www.governmentsecurity.org is a good forum we have to show our motivation

Reply is the first step ...

This is a great forum and i have learned so much here just lurking. I just continue to read whenever i get a chance. Im intellectually intimidated by a majority of the members so I usually dont post at all. I figure if I dont have anything good to add to a conversation Iam better off keeping my mouth shut. Anyways thank you for the oppurtunity to have a trial member forum and ask questions. Well take care and to everyone that is leaving GSO for other endeavors and quite time good luck and thank you for providing all members with a place to discuss what they love. Maybe one of these days Ill find my way over to wherever you all end up.

I can imagine why this rule has been taken. In the normal member section they don't need people asking " How to do this and that". So when you start reading and trying to help other people you'll start to learn more and more about securing yourselve. When that happend, You might have a change of becoming a full member.

the admins stop to move trial user's to full members?
i see ppl with 70\80\90\100 post's (i dont no the qulaity of the post's) and them still trial....

Thanks for reducing the time limit between posts. It really helps
people like me only read this forum 30-60 mins once or twice a week so now i'll be able to make more posts.

Well

Thank you very much for the info to start. As a trial member, i am supprised of this forum.

It is "the best and greatest" to "help and assist" everybody who wants to secure his network.
I hope to learn and read much more here.

Just venting here, but as a real rookie attempting to babysit my own network, this site provides a tremendous wealth of knowledge. However, I doubt I will make my quota of posts to warrant membership. Not only am I intimidated by the knowledge of the members, but most of what I need to know has already been posted. I've been searching this site now for about 2 weeks, and (following the rules) I have been able to find most of the info in previous threads. I hope that membership will also be considered for users like me who just want to take advantage of the knowledge base. How about allowing a "nomination" from a current member? I know the rules were created for a reason. Thanks for sharing this site. I plan to take advantage of it as long as I can.

Exaxtly what i was thinking....you can post 96 posts if you are on the forum 24hrs.
but tell me how many of you guys stay 24hrs on the forum. i get around 30-40 mins to go through the forum and maybe on holidays i will stay for max of 4-5hrs
em not complaining here...just saying a revisision on the time would be nice

I would like to add my thoughts on this situation.

I work in the industry and many a time I have come across governmentsecurity.org while searching for information regarding incidents. In the past, I have had to use google's cache to view some of the information (as the site at that time was locked down) and I wondered how I could obtain membership. Then 1 fateful day I was searching for something and found I could register.. Oh happy day!

Now I am stuck being a n00b (even though in reality I am not) however I am happy to prove my worthy-ness because:

1) Everyone else had too. This process will keep a high knowledge level on the board.
2) Ok, I hate the 900 sec rule, like many of you I have a lot to say, just not a lot of time to say it. I understand that it keeps spammers away, but 15mins between posts? I think 5mins would be a better rule, but hey, I didn't make the rules.. So I must follow them.

[kissass]

So once again, I just want to thank the admin staff for giving me the opportunity to join.

[/kissass]

agreed, we are here to help each other. I hope to be of any help

But once you arrive......oh, yes.

It goes back to what Comsec said about trust. You can be the greatest brain, but if you don't have trust, forget it. Trust takes time, lots of it.

Hang in there, folks!